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    Post by Night Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:39 pm

    Well some may have heard, Nexon finally stopped being lazy after 2 years, and now their after private servers :O

    I think UniversalStory should be taken off voting sites, Cause they've already closed down like 50 servers, Most of the popular ones ( Ancient, Final, Genesis, Desu, etc. ) Their aiming for any private server, Small or big doesn't matter, basically soon enough they'll close all the servers that are on vote sites.

    If you think I'm faking, check:

    http://maplestory.nexon.net/WZ.ASPX?PART=/News/View&boardNo=100&contentNo=004ZM&pageIndex=1

    Either that, or check xtremetop100, all the top servers closed down thanks to Nexon.

    MY OPINION

    Take UMS off voting sites.
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    Post by Infatuated Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:24 pm

    This isn't such a bad idea. We should take it off as soon as possible before Kevin or Jimmy gets sued. We could see advertise on other websites (Youtube, ragezone, Gamerzplanet, etc.)
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    Post by Tozza Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:56 pm

    Yes i have seen this happening...
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    Post by GFXKid Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:14 pm

    Yeah, idk.
    They haven't closed it so far, so...
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    Post by Ragalon Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:37 pm

    Over the past few months, Nexon has taken many actions to enforce its rights against private servers. For the community to understand what this means, we'll briefly explain our position and why action is taken.

    Private servers- it doesn't matter what game it is; it doesn't matter what the justifications is; the bottom line is that all private servers are illegal. The content that appears on Nexon's website and in its games are Nexon's protected intellectual property. Intellectual property rights are defined as legal property rights, both artistic and commercial, in tangible form (as opposed to ideas). It is recognized by the laws of all the countries in the world and there are severe penalties for those who violate those rights, whether through expensive statutory fines or criminal jail time. The use of intellectual material such as Nexon's requires the permission and authorization from its owner. Using unauthorized intellectual property for personal gain without permission is both illegal and actionable.

    The major issue with private servers is that they bypass the creative process of designers and developers. They make copies of the original game by using the creative assets of which they have no legal right to use. Please know that intellectual property has more than a monetary value; private server creators violate the intellectual property rights on games by using it for their own personal interest. It is for this reason that we take legal action against any and all private servers running Nexon games. There is no such thing as a Nexon-approved private server.

    Another danger private servers pose concerns the security of information. When you register to play on a private server, you are blindly surrendering your personal information to non-professionals who have no legal obligation to keep your personal information secure. There is no telling what they can do with your personal information!

    We have heard some claims that private servers don't make money or ask for donations (some do), it is technically not illegal. This is incorrect. First of all, collecting donations does not automatically make a website a charity or a non-profit organization. To become a charity or have non-profit status, strict guidelines must be followed and government approval needs to be met. We doubt any of the private server sites would fall under those guideline. Therefore, a private server website accepting donations would still be classified as a commercial endeavor which is performing illegal activities. Nobody is fooled by the "donation" scam.

    You may have criticism towards Nexon's games that you feel are addressed in private servers. Keep in mind that we are continuing to try to improve our games on a daily basis, which is challenging since we are on a large scale in regards to a player base. It may not be too difficult keeping 5, 20 or maybe even a 100 players happy, but we cater to the thousands that log onto our servers daily, and the millions that play our games worldwide.

    We will continue to pursue any and every action necessary, whether legal or otherwise, to stop those who continue to illegally use our intellectual property. If you are currently running an unauthorized server, we advise you to discontinue your service immediately.



    Thank you for your understanding.

    -MapleStory Staff-

    From what I have heard Universal is no longer officaly accepting donations or any form of payment at all, and if you read paragraph 5 and therefore "it is technically not illegal"

    so if Kevin is sure it wont get taken down I say next month we vote like crazy and get in the top 20 (all of the big servers are down)

    Also it may be useful to get us some GOOD terms an conditions.

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    Post by Night Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:42 am

    Ragalon wrote:
    Over the past few months, Nexon has taken many actions to enforce its rights against private servers. For the community to understand what this means, we'll briefly explain our position and why action is taken.

    Private servers- it doesn't matter what game it is; it doesn't matter what the justifications is; the bottom line is that all private servers are illegal. The content that appears on Nexon's website and in its games are Nexon's protected intellectual property. Intellectual property rights are defined as legal property rights, both artistic and commercial, in tangible form (as opposed to ideas). It is recognized by the laws of all the countries in the world and there are severe penalties for those who violate those rights, whether through expensive statutory fines or criminal jail time. The use of intellectual material such as Nexon's requires the permission and authorization from its owner. Using unauthorized intellectual property for personal gain without permission is both illegal and actionable.

    The major issue with private servers is that they bypass the creative process of designers and developers. They make copies of the original game by using the creative assets of which they have no legal right to use. Please know that intellectual property has more than a monetary value; private server creators violate the intellectual property rights on games by using it for their own personal interest. It is for this reason that we take legal action against any and all private servers running Nexon games. There is no such thing as a Nexon-approved private server.

    Another danger private servers pose concerns the security of information. When you register to play on a private server, you are blindly surrendering your personal information to non-professionals who have no legal obligation to keep your personal information secure. There is no telling what they can do with your personal information!

    We have heard some claims that private servers don't make money or ask for donations (some do), it is technically not illegal. This is incorrect. First of all, collecting donations does not automatically make a website a charity or a non-profit organization. To become a charity or have non-profit status, strict guidelines must be followed and government approval needs to be met. We doubt any of the private server sites would fall under those guideline. Therefore, a private server website accepting donations would still be classified as a commercial endeavor which is performing illegal activities. Nobody is fooled by the "donation" scam.

    You may have criticism towards Nexon's games that you feel are addressed in private servers. Keep in mind that we are continuing to try to improve our games on a daily basis, which is challenging since we are on a large scale in regards to a player base. It may not be too difficult keeping 5, 20 or maybe even a 100 players happy, but we cater to the thousands that log onto our servers daily, and the millions that play our games worldwide.

    We will continue to pursue any and every action necessary, whether legal or otherwise, to stop those who continue to illegally use our intellectual property. If you are currently running an unauthorized server, we advise you to discontinue your service immediately.



    Thank you for your understanding.

    -MapleStory Staff-

    From what I have heard Universal is no longer officaly accepting donations or any form of payment at all, and if you read paragraph 5 and therefore "it is technically not illegal"

    so if Kevin is sure it wont get taken down I say next month we vote like crazy and get in the top 20 (all of the big servers are down)

    Also it may be useful to get us some GOOD terms an conditions.

    -Viva la Revolution-

    Oh but of course, you completely forgot about what the first paragraph says.

    "Private servers- it doesn't matter what game it is; it doesn't matter what the justifications is; the bottom line is that all private servers are illegal."

    Another thing is, they claim copyright etc. So basically, they'll close any server for stealing their ideas and whatever you want to call it.

    "We have heard some claims that private servers don't make money or ask for donations (some do), it is technically not illegal."

    Read the next sentance.

    "This is incorrect."

    and the last bit little bit I want to chop out of that:

    "Please know that intellectual property has more than a monetary value; private server creators violate the intellectual property rights on games by using it for their own personal interest. It is for this reason that we take legal action against any and all private servers running Nexon games."
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    Post by GFXKid Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:34 am

    Ragalon wrote:
    To become a charity or have non-profit status, strict guidelines must be followed and government approval needs to be met. We doubt any of the private server sites would fall under those guideline.
    If its possible to be an official non-profit, lets try it?

    And GOD, don't quote bloody 5 paragraph life story's when you only need one paragraph.
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    Post by Jaz Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:36 am

    Will it come here to?
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    Post by Zack Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:16 am

    GFXKid wrote:
    Ragalon wrote:
    To become a charity or have non-profit status, strict guidelines must be followed and government approval needs to be met. We doubt any of the private server sites would fall under those guideline.
    If its possible to be an official non-profit, lets try it?

    And GOD, don't quote bloody 5 paragraph life story's when you only need one paragraph.

    If we become this non-profit organization by the government than we will not be affected by this huge wipe out of servers. If we become a non-profit organization, and Nexon doesn't believe us and sues us, we can sue them back and we will have the upper hand because we really would be a non-profit organization.
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    Post by GFXKid Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:51 pm

    Yeah. Would it be possible to fit into those guidelines anyway?
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    Post by Zack Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:30 pm

    Dunno, if Kevin reads this then we'll no if its possible.
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    Post by Tozza Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:01 pm

    Kev asked me to remove the donations section of the forum. I have.

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